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time we're going to put the answers to
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the goes on tight turn you all know what
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goes in tight means it doesn't mean
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bless you it means health it means
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health and they don't say it that much
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in Germany some people do but we say it
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a lot in Minnesota gesundheit when
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people sneeze and in Georgian is Jon
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Martello bah do you want to try that Jon
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Martello bah that means health as well
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and they they have three different
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things that they say when people sneeze
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when you see is the first time it's jon
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martello by the second time it's a
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different thing the third time it's a
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it's a different thing I remember the
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second one I don't remember the third
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one but anyway so maybe if you remember
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that you can tell people gesundheit in
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Georgian on his knees we're going to
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assign people to put the IPA on the
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board IPA for the mandarin exercise and
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I think we will just we'll just pick
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some people now each person take eight
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characters Magidson pocket Oh winces
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okay so sorry sherry you at the
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beginning again so the first eight
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second date third 8 4th not now not now
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during break during break forth 858 all
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right how many characters are there
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somebody count I didn't count them how
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many 83 83 so let's go up to 80 and then
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someone gets the last three with theirs
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so that's the fifth fifth 86 87 88 89
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810 safe that brings us to 80 and you
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get three more you get the prize all
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right put that up during break and put
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them in order please in sequence okay
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we'll check that second hour all right
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everybody please quiet we're starting
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the second thing is I've got some
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homework to give back to you
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pass that back and it's in order so it
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should be easy to find yours and you'll
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notice that in your homework the TAS
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made some notes a lot of you did not
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answer all the questions for example we
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asked about the neutral tone system of
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mean I use some of you gave really good
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answers I'll mention some of you just
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because you did so well Lindsey's Sabina
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Ellis one joi woo Stanley Miranda you
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all gave pretty good answers for the
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mean I you change in the wind T the rest
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of you some of you I didn't mention all
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of you the rest of you you can find the
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information online and if you don't know
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where to find it online you can ask one
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of the people whose name i just
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mentioned okay so you should have been
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able to find that now I realize that
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that was actually a multiple assignment
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because a lot of a lot of you didn't
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know about the tone system of me now you
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and if you don't know about the tone
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system it's hard to get information
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about the neutral tone system right you
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have to know give me feedback as I talk
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please a lot of you didn't know about
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the tone system you told me before in a
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previous class is that right yeah so
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that means you had to learn the tone
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system and then on top of it learn the
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neutral tone system but you're all
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Tony's right all of you I'm the only one
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who is not so all of it I know it yeah
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so all of you are Taiwanese is something
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you really should know even if you don't
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speak me now you you still should know
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it and you know because you're a
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phonetic student your why when she
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student you know your da she has student
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so you should know this stuff if you
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didn't get it this time please put it in
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your notes for next time because we
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still have notes for this week you need
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to hand in last day of class january
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second we have class on january second
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right so please try to answer all the
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questions you missed this time one of
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them was about me and I heat own system
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neutral tone system oh don't write it on
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your hand please put it on paper it's
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really not good for your hand this duel
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soo in ink that was one of the questions
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another one was is man during a stressed
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time or a syllable timed system and we
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had different ideas that actually people
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have not really come out with a
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conclusive answer
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this is still being studied and people
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are still arguing about it but I will
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give you a few thoughts just for your
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reference the biggest thing to consider
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is that do you speak the same when
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you're just talking to your friend as
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you do when you're reading a newspaper
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out loud know when you're reading a
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newspaper out loud what's going to
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happen to your speech think a minute
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which one is worthier which one is
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worrier between your conversations your
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casual conversations and then a more
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formal kind of newspaper article not
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really bagua okay a little more formal
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like international news what will be
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which one will be worrier do you know
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what i mean by wordy err what do I mean
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by wordy err yeah a lot of words that
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don't have a don't that don't contribute
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a lot of information right which one has
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more emptier words conversation right
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because you add all kinds of noises and
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all kinds of size and well not even
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those i mean just speaking we tend to
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tell stories you know more relaxed and
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wordy your way when we're just
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conversing but when we have to address
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other people we're afraid of losing
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their interest and for newspaper also it
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needs to be in a written style writing
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by nigel in guy push on yahoo i'm emma
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wordy and plus for publication it's
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going to be a little more no soil so are
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you going to sound the same when
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speaking in your word your
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conversational style as you sound when
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you're reading from the newspaper will
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it sound the same no because the word
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here you get what happens
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what happens to your rhythm the word ER
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you get what happens to your rhythm I
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will just give you a really quick
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example when your tongue is yo ho
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song ten mean you're wrong and when
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you're speaking a 21-point on how to
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show what's the difference the rhythm is
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really different how is it different you
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speak faster because the information
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value is going down because a lot of
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words are not carrying much information
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and when the information value goes down
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are you going to pronounce it slowly and
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clearly know it's going to get a bit
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reduced although you don't have a change
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them so much like in Beijing but you
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still reduce it and you're going to make
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it shorter i will give you one example
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sort of what i mean and i thought of
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this yesterday if you have been to NTU
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phonetics on facebook you've already
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seen the example and this also relates
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to what we're talking about in this
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chapter about speed speedy speedily what
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happens what's that an example of what's
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that an example of that's what we're
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just going to look at in the exercises
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we're going to mark speed speedy
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speedily vowel length right when is the
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vowel the longest in a single syllable
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word right a monosyllabic word and it
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gets shorter in a die syllabic word and
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then with more than two syllables it
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gets even shorter do you think you have
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that in Chinese it doesn't have to be
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words we can use phrases but words are
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ok to do you think you do that in
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Chinese or do you think they're all
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about equal length
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one really really important thing for
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you to do in your education is to make
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connections a lot of times the things
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that you learn in the textbook they're
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just dry facts you eat them up and then
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you spit them out again for test isn't
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that the way it often works in classes
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in your in your entire career of going
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to the school very often you learn dry
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facts and you spit them back out on the
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test is that right does that happen
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binbin women shower hot yummy little
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Somalian gwan can be added on chili and
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guanciale to supplier base this is sabay
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na hona jo wait I don't belch and I'm
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like way that has that happen to you
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before is there anybody who that has not
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happened to Tony male fashion voice and
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Rihanna so very often we just have dry
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facts we we keep them temporarily we
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don't really do jest them we just kind
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of eat them up and then we spit them out
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again for the test and we don't
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understand them deeply we haven't made
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connections to other things and we
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haven't learned how to apply them to our
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own experience that is the one thing I
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hope that you can get out of this class
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that maybe you didn't get out of all
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other class of course in the Y when she
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it should be better now other classes
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especially litter literature classes
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they want you to think related to your
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own experience write essays and things
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that should help but in a lot of classes
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and unsure in a system like Taiwan's you
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often are just storing them temporarily
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and spitting them out again so one thing
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I really really want you all to work on
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is applying it to your own experience
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and connecting connections with other
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things applying means when we learn
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rules you actually speak English using
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those rules for example compound stress
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that's not a bunch of dead rules those
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are rules that will help you change the
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way you speak English is that right I
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need feedback folks yes please get in
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the habit of giving feedback I'm not the
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only teacher who wants it even your
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Taiwanese teachers want it to because
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otherwise we don't know if you
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understood us or if you're just thinking
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John Talabot meals a wage is about Tess
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wholesome ah that's what you're thinking
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if that's what you're thinking let them
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know
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so the things that we are learning are
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things that can actually change the way
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you speak English that's applying that's
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application you guys should be taking
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notes this is something very important I
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keep telling you that well they are
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important so learning should be applied
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and unless you're able to apply it it's
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just dead facts they're just going to
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sit there nothing's going to happen to
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them they won't really benefit you
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you're just going to have more weight to
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carry around in your brain extra stuff
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that you've memorized but you learn how
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to apply them if you apply them for
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example in a sentence where you pause
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good guy positive on so mr. semester Ho
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Chi Yong into a nigga continuation rice
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all of that stuff is to be applied
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llamame sameeyo you need to apply it
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when you're listening and especially
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when you're speaking that's applying but
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making connections that means learning
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about the way we do things in English
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and applying it to chinese mandarin and
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taiwanese whatever languages you know
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that's making connections so theory is
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wednesday you need to learn how to apply
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it for it to be useful and then make
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connections theory application make
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connections the Sangha dong XI these
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belong in your notes everybody to sign
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that the only thing I found genie the
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notes well boosters to be enjoying
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anything will be a male either don't she
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it's really important especially in this
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class this is a really practical class
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we learned some theory but we're not
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doing phonology we're doing phonetics so
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it's really very very much an applied
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area of study so in Chinese when you get
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wordy er do you think that something
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similar happens we're bringing together
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now the two things that I was just
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talking about speed speedy speedily my
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question was do you think this happens
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in Chinese and I just asked you a
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question a minute ago when you're
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speaking with your friends casually and
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then when you're reading a newspaper we
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find there's a difference in style can
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you bring some of these ideas together
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and then come up with something Sophie
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can you do me a favor I just want you to
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write something on the board
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where's okay i guess the others are busy
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right shoe shoe from yesterday and then
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till tomo kinoshita ho yeah alright
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we're going to put the two sentences on
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the board that i posted on facebook
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yesterday NTU phonetics and i already
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gave the answer pretty much if you
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followed it there in the 9 comments and
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finally the person who answered who's a
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former into you student now in the US he
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said the opposite of what I expected and
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I was surprised how's it you installed
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it you sob other all right everybody see
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what I'm getting at with these two
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phrases this link on came from an Ivy
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listener Karen an IV or in polo tikka
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dong chic huh how'd you saw a DG the
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reason I wanted Sophie to write them
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well because I didn't want to write them
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i'm busy and my writing isn't so
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beautiful but it's because i didn't want
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to say them because if i say them i will
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prejudice your answer i want you to give
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your answer as a native speaker and not
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be influenced by my foreigners chinese
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all right how about can you try it
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together good now
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oh nice Ali gets a chink yeah there we
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go all right one more time let's try it
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again all right one more I think I so
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solidly gadomski right mo e yeah even
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need ends of sundress I'm there Joey
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there we go all right now we've got the
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whole thing one more time all right
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what's the point let's just compare a
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couple of words this MO and this small
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town to what young Amy you think know
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how about the rest of you and you can
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also compare shoot and shoot and should
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ensure however we have to say this one
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will probably be longer no matter what
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because it's the everybody it's the same
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as in English it'll be the same in any
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language i'm sure this probably will be
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longer no matter what because it's the
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huh what don't be afraid just say what
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you said I didn't hear it Boog when
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Simeon took it back I creepy gel tongue
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because what don't be afraid just
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because I reacted I just heard something
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I thought was not right but doesn't mean
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everybody's wrong Jerome please you're
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brave
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yes it's the final syllable in the
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phrase the final syllable will generally
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be longer no matter what so comparing
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this and this we can be pretty sure this
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will be longer that's for a different
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reason but we can compare this small
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with this small and this shoot with this
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what do you think is happening
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because all right so this is an example
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when you see in latter focus textbook
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that speed speedy speedily iocl Cepeda
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get Holly under you and greater it's
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just English right is it just English
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know it's probably universal it's
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probably some kind of universal I don't
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want to call it that but I if it's even
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if it's not universal I'm sure it's
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extremely common let's analyze the the
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reason for it I know we have a lot of
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stuff to do but I think this is really
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really worth thinking about and I want
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you to do more thinking because if you
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come up with some answers you will
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remember them better you'll feel pride
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because you got it yourself and you'll
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remember it better so this is Jerome is
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suggesting that these are probably going
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to be shorter just because we have more
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syllables is that the only reason
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for example Simon do we want say hey
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that's pretty long that's a lot of
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syllables but do we say it really fast
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no probably not there you go you got it
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Jamie good you got it information value
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that's the key information value is the
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key very good which of these two has a
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higher per syllable information value
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the first one or the second one just
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nobody shouted out now just think a
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minute which one has a higher per
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syllable information value one or two
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because what happens in two let's put
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numbers by and so make it explicit what
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happens in to tell me some characters
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that don't have much meaning it past
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Easter shou dao sophie gonna miss you
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even had you to push you up right so
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this one Sophie already gave that away
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because she felt I didn't even have to
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add it what else en doesn't have too
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much information does it what else Shing
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the all of those are redundant aren't
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they we can do without all of those the
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redundant because they're repeating
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information we already have or they're
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giving a slightly additional information
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that's not very important it's more like
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additional kind of formal information
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structural information so we end up
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after we've marked all of these all of
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these redundant words what do we end up
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with right it's what we started out with
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in the first sentence yeah
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Jocelyn remain the words but that is
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shorter but i know i'm taking this
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actually from a Facebook post if you
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want to see it go to Karen on ivy just
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like a teen zone shaky water and i just
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copied what she wrote does like a native
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speakers theater when she was saying she
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was talking about the end out with her
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boo hasn't slowed to almost woman young
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Janelle should all boo like Jennings say
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like I said later that's what she said
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and this this is her sentence so it's
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endlessly yo native speaker sheila and
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she used a more abbreviated style
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because she was writing you mean has I
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that does if written style John happy
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jump away I didn't say that one was that
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they were both speaking style the first
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one is not speaking style the first ones
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written style that's where I got it you
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can all accept that right drink it's not
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really speaking style but that goes back
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to the example that I gave you if you're
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just chatting with your friend or if
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you're reading from the newspaper right
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you have two very different styles so
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this one has a much higher per syllable
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information value and if you read my
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post in facebook yesterday I actually
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did a measurement this actually has
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about the same length the whole
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utterance as i remember well my OG told
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a lot this is 1.3 seconds about this
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one's about 1.5 seconds so this one's
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only slightly longer than this one I'm
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not a native speaker so these are only
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for reference you can try it yourself
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and you can use plot and you can measure
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measure the length of the whole thing
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and then listen to each syllable mark
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them and then it will tell you how long
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it is this one this tool are about the
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same length but you see we didn't we
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didn't have any additional information
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here we didn't add an extra syllable
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rather hear right we didn't say to the
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tool for example to the tool or tour
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chun or something like that thought
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didn't change so in fact its length
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didn't change
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either in my two utterances but Molly
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jian chi Chi Mon shoot one two three
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four five five syllables originally we
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expressed it in just two syllables if
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you say everything really slowly and
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clearly and remember the person who
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posted how highly wait dr judah sah'ot
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make a syllable beat out tom if any of
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you read the post make what are you good
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yeah enjoy him so he's going to have to
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give me his data to prove the heck
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because right motion norwegian shushing
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if you say it too slowly to a mo e GN
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shoulda ching that should help how do
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you feel that when i say it back slowly
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do you like it better tomo ginger ginger
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shaho or do you like to mow etn should
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chinglish aho the second time what does
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it sound like drum because maybe you
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were thinking with two moley moley idea
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but it's really only one mole each end
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she don't mow again it sounds like I'm
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emphasizing it for some reason normally
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if you emphasize it that much it doesn't
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sound natural is that right so the point
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of this is what I was saying we've got
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theory learn to apply it and learn to
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make connections so for Speed speedy
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speedily this is kind of an illustration
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of how it works in Chinese it's the same
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thing as the information value goes down
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the still the number of syllables is
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going up speed the Lee of course we know
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that it is now what part of speech speed
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is what part of speech part of speech
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means to lay so now right speedy is a an
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adjective and then speedily is an adverb
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right however going from speed to
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speedily do we have a lot of new
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information in speedily as compared to
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speed we have one piece of new
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information which is part of speech
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it's part of speech sealed slay and is
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that lexical meeting or is that
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structure its structure and in Chinese
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etn is this really lexical meaning or is
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it structure especially again that's
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structure that's not really lexical
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meaning this is just the classifier that
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usually goes with Xu Qing tapped
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hometown weightdiet ago the emphasis
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this is structure this is not really
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lexical so do you see a similarity here
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we can add more syllables but if the
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information value is not going up
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whatever how are we going to compensate
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when we're speaking we're going to well
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change the length of the syllables and
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the speed of the utterance and there's a
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very interesting study now about how
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many pieces of information per second
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languages have in a language like
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Spanish it sounds much faster in
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Japanese as well in this study they
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found that people do speak spanish and
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japanese faster than English and in
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English we speak faster than in Mandarin
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Mandarin was a slower language why this
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is something really valuable to think
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about anybody who wants to do anything
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with language in the future this will be
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useful knowledge to you something you
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can use to actually think about kinds of
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research projects mandarin was one of
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the slower languages now don't feel
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insulted don't think it's because your
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brains are slow newman beat out die it's
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not don't feel insulted is saying
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something about your language though
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what's it saying about your language go
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ahead
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that's right more information content /
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syllable and that is really true you
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cannot deny that and that's one of the
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things that I love so much about Chinese
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is everything is so tidy heka found
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quiet you go found quite suit that also
26:22
represents not only its size and writing
26:25
but its information value they're not
26:27
exactly the same but the information
26:30
value per syllable in Chinese is much
26:32
higher on average peninsula then for a
26:36
language like Spanish or Japanese
26:38
Spanish and Japanese were spoken the
26:40
quickest because they have many many
26:42
what structural syllables many suea
26:47
right both of them have a lot of a lot
26:51
of structural syllables added on towards
26:54
the end of the word this is really it's
26:57
quite cutting edge this is rather new I
27:00
thought about this myself for years and
27:02
when somebody finally wrote this article
27:03
I was so glad I have something I can
27:06
quote no I can cite you may region soil
27:08
again Joe okay so this is a really good
27:12
illustration if anybody ever asks you
27:14
about this this was a great example and
27:16
I have to thank my IV listener who came
27:18
up with this sometimes IV listener even
27:21
with some um fav Wade I a lot of my time
27:23
at home I'm answering questions for free
27:25
to IV listeners but I get a lot in
27:29
return you know a lot of a lot of data
27:31
and a lot of insight and a lot of
27:33
inspiration so anyway that's that that
27:38
was about I was talking about which
27:40
which assignments we have not I have not
27:42
received from you in your notes so we
27:44
asked about Mandarin being a stress
27:46
timer syllable time language this coming
27:48
back to this question what's the answer
27:50
based on what we've covered so far what
27:52
we've talked about so far what would
27:55
your answer be somebody besides Jerome
27:58
Jerome is been giving a lot of answers
28:00
anybody now how would you answer this
28:05
question is Mandarin a more stressed I'm
28:06
language or more syllable time language
28:08
although man one doesn't strictly
28:11
speaking have stress the way English
28:13
does
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don't be too loose simplistic and don't
28:24
be don't be misled by the question
28:27
actually gave you the answer my personal
28:30
answer a little earlier it depends on
28:36
the style it depends on the style if
28:42
it's a written style it's going to be
28:46
more what more syllable time because
28:50
you're already high information value
28:53
per syllable will go up even higher so
28:59
the information value of each syllable
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goes up higher the more syllables you
29:03
get rid of and I just want to shouldn't
29:05
even mention something that I learned
29:07
from a very good workshop held by tie
29:09
back it was about guanghe outs the giant
29:14
xie tiga workshop you're going to a farm
29:16
has a gel woman to me on here don't wind
29:19
up going out see now what ananda light
29:22
out i want yogurt jawans old one cook it
29:24
was shocked so I went and I did okay at
29:26
this workshop I think that was his whole
29:29
point down leads addy yow sergey gecko
29:33
how do we want it wordy or do we want it
29:36
hi information into the point
29:40
therefore guang GAO su sub you can count
29:43
our hi Zoe right the whole workshop
29:47
basically was about getting rid of
29:49
everything that was not absolutely
29:51
necessary that was the point of the
29:52
workshop it was a really really good
29:55
workshop pads adeje shank gelled Osama
29:58
specific Wonka guang GAO sirens later I
30:01
forgot his name right now i'll think of
30:02
it later but it was a really really good
30:04
workshop so getting rid of everything
30:07
that you don't absolutely need you're
30:09
going to have something that is more
30:11
what time syllable time then the more
30:15
tons that you put in there the more
30:16
redundant information the more it sounds
30:18
like a what kind of language stressed
30:21
I'm language so tongue she is what very
30:27
definitely syllable time because often
30:29
Jesus Owen guy Yoda sheets a good
30:32
magician romão to be ready to Yalta and
30:36
there's also a kind of art that I
30:38
mentioned sometimes it's called Xu Lai
30:40
bounty man ting guo mei yao qi lai bao i
30:43
had a happen to memory have memorized
30:46
one sentence from shul i bow and I'll
30:48
clap to show you I want you to pick out
30:51
the unstressed syllables that are
30:54
contributing to the rhythm it goes like
30:57
this just it done on EEG needs a good
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job the wall hood hung me choose a good
31:04
job the hood tongue what did you hear is
31:07
that stress or syllable time stress
31:10
because what were the unstressed
31:15
syllables that we're giving it a stress
31:17
timed rhythm neature it's a good job
31:20
whoa good tongue chugga-chugga-chugga
31:25
doesn't have much information and what
31:27
else delegates okay whoa who hung those
31:33
have more content per word but that's an
31:35
example of stressed i'm chinese azul i
31:37
bow and many kinds of conversation
31:41
newspaper news reading we're getting
31:43
more towards syllable time puncture then
31:47
we're all the way to syllable timing
31:48
okay so i hope this was useful that was
31:52
my personal answer for that question
31:53
maybe
31:55
that will give you more to think about
31:56
but please answer it in your notes if
31:58
you didn't answer it the first time
31:59
another thing I want to mention is
32:01
clinic CL itic in Chinese I didn't give
32:04
you the Chinese its food sha tsui fool
32:09
just a food I saw me on the fool ja
32:13
sicher total jerk oh yeah no II suicide
32:19
a su jaja foods will you sue that's
32:23
clinic in Chinese some of you did not
32:30
summarize the phonotactic page two
32:33
syllable structure put it in your notes
32:35
for next time anything that you missed
32:37
the TAS have given you notes in read
32:40
about what you're missing make sure you
32:42
make it up in your new set of notes and
32:44
those are to be handed in on january
32:46
second and that's your last set of notes
32:48
for the semester I think that's it we're
32:55
going to quickly go over as quickly as
32:57
we can the vowel Aleph own rules oh no
33:01
sorry the exercises for chapter four now
33:05
these things take a bit of time and a
33:08
bit of looking
33:14
let's just go around the room who was
33:18
the last person you are the last person
33:19
to be a science so you can start for
33:22
exercise a on page 10 to give your
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examples for e page 102 uh-huh sister
33:40
and thesis but we don't have a and
33:44
sister so the example is you need the
33:49
vowel E when it's stressed and when it's
33:52
reduced because he handles the e-ink
33:55
isotoner answer what the in guys should
33:58
Jesus a toyger to the pudong shanghai
34:00
did you understand that part or not so
34:04
for example the first one is secrete
34:07
secretes offend me Nathan need an egg
34:10
offend me secrete the second one is
34:15
secretive so secrete nigga e is a full
34:21
vowel secrete but in secretive nigga
34:25
secretions I'd be in sync a schwa
34:28
secretive is that right so you didn't
34:31
understand that exercise or did I miss
34:38
something
34:41
so sister doesn't contain it there's no
34:45
en sister oh that's it right that's the
34:51
vowel E this is IPA it's not spelling oh
34:56
I see okay all right I will accept that
34:59
okay I was just thinking you would do
35:01
another one for e all right so you
35:03
didn't do one for all right then let's
35:05
go to you I have sister and thesis all
35:10
right but we try to have words that
35:12
relate to each other it's better does
35:15
anybody have words that we like just
35:16
like secrete and secretive yo male okay
35:23
limit limitation limb limit limitation
35:30
is a full vowel it's unstressed but it's
35:33
a full vowel but it was a nice idea and
35:35
at least they have a connection okay so
35:38
it says illustrating the relationship
35:40
between the words and the second and
35:42
fourth columns let's look at the let's
35:45
look at the table make sure you do so
35:53
does it those are Tony gets to the boot
35:54
on machine hi what's the top adoro right
35:58
so yeah Mayo not all of them some of
36:02
them are cause causality yo I was
36:07
expecting more like can't confront
36:09
confrontation nanoha nigga guanxi will
36:11
be talking to I guess they don't do it
36:13
on all than they have hoodwinked
36:14
neighborhood knows a huge ambush on Gwen
36:16
that's true okay so sisterly and basis
36:21
uh-huh okay i guess i will accept it i
36:26
was expecting something different that's
36:28
why i made a big deal of it sisterly
36:30
basis all right let's go on let's does
36:32
somebody else have one for ear though
36:34
that we can try another one anybody
36:36
Ellis what did you hear what did you
36:38
have huh Oh insipid insipidity that one
36:43
works insipid insipid so wait that away
36:47
insipid insipidity that works that's
36:50
good that's more of what I was expecting
36:52
but I guess when I look at the table now
36:54
I guess he allows other things all right
36:57
let's go on to a else agency again
37:03
agency uh-huh announced agency announced
37:07
that's good enough let's going had
37:09
headache accent accent I accent accent I
37:15
don't say accent I say accent action a
37:20
ccent I say accent he has an accent he
37:25
has an accent accent sounds British he
37:29
was an accent he has an accent I have an
37:31
F right a foreign accent for an accent
37:35
for an accent absent absent is okay in
37:44
absentia in absentia you'll tell me get
37:47
two associates allotting one in absentia
37:49
absent that would work all right let's
37:52
go on an accent he has an exit for an
37:57
accent I don't know myself now I think
37:59
it's a full vowel but it may sometimes
38:01
be a schwa let's go on acid OCD that's a
38:06
good one acid acidic that's a good one
38:08
how about 40 and they say ah or all
38:12
because in British the all it's written
38:16
as 0 like in pot pot in American is ah
38:19
so for American is I pronouns
38:24
pronunciation for a pronounced where's
38:29
the eye
38:35
that's ow woman I Emil we had gone on
38:41
sat out who did a after as ah right come
38:54
come come spell c om e co e C ome come
39:00
but has only one syllable and it's not
39:06
it's not ah anyway come is which foul
39:09
its del V yeah can somebody help up
39:14
we've helped out with a she doesn't seem
39:16
to be ready with a look at your own very
39:21
good biography by a graphical that's a
39:24
good one biography anybody have
39:26
something else for our all right
39:30
phonology phonological there are lots of
39:34
examples with the ologies all right
39:37
let's try oh you have something for oh
39:38
oh wait gun guns a way do you have
39:43
something for Oh note note and but
39:47
notice only one syllable we need more
39:48
than one syllable right otherwise we
39:50
don't know which syllable stress with
39:51
one syllable do we go Joey may buy my be
39:54
a note 8 and annotate annotate and note
40:00
okay I see what you're saying no to
40:02
annotate it should have more than one
40:04
syllable but I'll accept that that's how
40:05
it works ok let's go into I combine the
40:10
combination that's good combined
40:13
combination combined combination we
40:17
could find a lot more examples but I
40:19
don't want to spend that much time on
40:20
this this is how it works you should be
40:22
able to lay it way all right be who had
40:25
a really fun sentence that used at least
40:28
eight vowels or more Mary wants to bake
40:34
apple pies or make our orange juice for
40:37
her kids oh that's nice Mary wants to
40:41
bake an apple pie or make orange juice
40:43
for her kids
40:45
think I put an extra word in there but
40:46
that's a really good one it makes sense
40:48
I wrote a sentence that makes no sense
40:51
okay very good so Mary wants to bake an
40:56
apple pie and make orange juice for her
40:59
kids that's good all right Stanley
41:01
transcribe we're going to have to put
41:03
that on the board yeah we'll have to put
41:05
that on the board let's skip over that
41:06
d1 so we need people to put see one on
41:11
the board okay see one American see one
41:16
British to American to British three
41:21
American three British for American for
41:25
British five American five British six
41:29
American six British seven Americans
41:32
seven British 8american eight british
41:35
okay during break drink break all right
41:38
so Stanley you'll win d man okay Stanley
41:43
three examples for rule one so we want
41:48
an open syllable a syllable that ends
41:50
with a voiceless stop and one that ends
41:52
with a voice step or open voiced
41:59
voiceless would be a better order
42:03
so open voiced and voiceless stopped at
42:06
the end
42:09
mmm pots mm-hmm and pad and food yeah
42:17
well we want the same vowel open
42:19
syllable we can't have odd and open
42:21
syllable normally well we have pod
42:23
that's a problematic one paw actually it
42:26
would work pa-pow it's possible baba so
42:29
I'll accept that paw paw and then paw
42:35
pad pod and pot that works ha pod pack
42:41
we don't have many syllables at end with
42:43
aa written with a in English pause one
42:46
of them and that's also hunk o UT good
42:48
sit do you have another set a pate pate
42:57
that'll do we start with open syllable
42:59
first hey hey hey pate paid and then pay
43:08
Tate coding all right that'll do let's
43:11
go on to the next one I have me need
43:14
meat ray raid rate sue food suit those
43:19
are my examples on to dessert and desert
43:24
very good dessert and desert that's a
43:27
good one anything else research research
43:31
that's good actually a lot of those noun
43:34
verb pairs will work I have decrease
43:36
decrease decreases the noun produce
43:40
produce noun and verb record record
43:45
contract contract there are lots and
43:48
lots of words like this that's an easy
43:49
source of that that's good enough let's
43:51
go into three
43:55
great greedy greedily all right similar
43:59
to speed speedy speedily just change the
44:01
first sound you get a lot of words that
44:03
way I have need needy neediness or need
44:07
needless neediness yeah okay what else
44:10
woot moody moody mood moody moodily yeah
44:15
ok moodily is not so common but it's
44:17
okay that's good enough i also have fate
44:20
fate adore fateful and faithfully and
44:23
hope hopeless hopelessly what's going on
44:26
for tomorrow today tonight coherence ok
44:33
tomorrow today coherence coherence will
44:37
be double great being voiceless
44:39
coherence be jump away and i think what
44:41
do you think the reason is for that
44:47
there's two reasons huh it's not reduced
44:53
in coherence it's a full vowel o in
44:56
addition see I yoshio wounded so that
44:58
might be having effect two but it's a
44:59
full vowel so coherence is not good but
45:01
today and tomorrow are very good i have
45:03
also together similar capacity career
45:07
and I said yoshio and its economy job
45:09
away but I have talissa t talissa t7
45:12
yoshio and it's a remember actually
45:15
should be teluk i should i should
45:16
correct it now i kept forgetting of his
45:18
tea liqueur teluk i looked it up its
45:20
teluk teeluk makes the sound clearer
45:22
Morse young lamb but it Stella can't
45:24
olicity ok capacity together career
45:27
Phyllis coin number five kind ok kind
45:34
min son ok lonely all of those have a
45:40
nasal at the end of the syllable they're
45:42
good enough right it doesn't say you
45:44
couldn't have a consonant after the end
45:46
so kind is fine come on number 66 but no
45:50
pill louder open they all pale
45:58
but now but now mm-hmm hell let's go
46:06
back to 6 it says vowels are retracted
46:08
before syllable final l those are those
46:11
are correct but they wanted a
46:12
contrasting pair of words so it might be
46:15
good to show a clear al compared to a
46:19
dark L i have lab and ball lab and ball
46:23
let and tell down doha could be jolly
46:27
sha ok they didn't make it really clear
46:30
but they do have final dark else so that
46:33
part is correct so not a big deal all
46:35
right e did this take you a lot of time
46:38
just read through your list very very
46:40
fast so words- syllables ending with p
46:45
that have the vowel eat sleep deep heap
46:48
sheep beep beep cheap peep how about
46:52
weep reap bleep bleep Jesus any census
46:57
Daniel yo too hot as a whole like a
47:01
gwaan Babu Savoy be e sigma we bleeped
47:05
it out we bleeped it out peep yo ma yo
47:09
ok CP oma se EP seep it's hard to check
47:15
each word i'll just read my list okay
47:17
bleep beep beep me puse it's on yonder
47:21
niggas if you're quite a deep leap keep
47:24
heap cheap cheap cheap cheap weep who
47:29
reap so good and v that's short for vice
47:35
president vee-vee p okay yeah cheap
47:40
shrimp tip what else ship deep cute
47:45
anymore no okay you're in style this one
47:49
there's a lot of words i have flip flip
47:52
drip drip drip tip tip tip tip lip nip
47:57
Kip chip chip chip zip whip zip yep rip
48:03
hip strip you missed some hey did you
48:07
miss some
48:09
okay all of those and in spelling with
48:12
IP you can find them all on one look but
48:14
that's not how I got them i just went
48:15
through the alphabet i just made a list
48:17
of all of the initial consonants and
48:20
blends and the clusters and then I tried
48:24
upon them and i found a lot for that one
48:26
let's go to f OA i'm sorry you're right
48:32
tape Ape Grape tape Ape Grape actually I
48:37
forgot ape ok tape Ape Grape anymore
48:42
Pete nigga p foam tape that cap tape
48:48
what else ching chong she uh huh chung
48:51
daeun uh huh Jill Tom chi phat by gape
48:56
gape and also nape now I told you the
49:01
word paint right there's also nape this
49:04
is the nape of your neck took addy found
49:06
that's the nape na PE nape of your neck
49:09
boards as a caddie found your nape all
49:12
right what's that you tell me take a
49:17
deep on easton and change over just take
49:22
a deep fog is the nape sometimes we have
49:25
a very specialized word nape switch on
49:26
on specialized if you have a dictionary
49:27
you can check it alright next after a
49:29
now we're to f ok step pepper iffen rip
49:36
that's all how about CREP hep strep
49:44
short for streptococcus just a hold on
49:47
phi n strep prep is short for
49:49
preparation yep yep
49:54
schlep schl EPP to see your tight you'll
49:59
tell you SoDo when schlepping should
50:01
talk tome ago don't she saw a lot of you
50:04
schlep a very heavy book bag around
50:06
every day is that right you all schlep a
50:10
very heavy book bag just a while I are
50:12
you but we actually use it in America
50:14
especially so I had a couple more let's
50:17
go on to act cap cap mädchen anymore no
50:26
that's it you guys could have worked
50:29
harder what do you have read them very
50:39
good that's most of them I have a few
50:42
more i'll just read them i can't
50:43
remember which ones you already said so
50:45
pap flap tap trap nap lap gap cap crap
50:51
clap wrap sap slap strap zap yap chap
50:57
jab jab is short for japanese not a very
51:02
nice word okay we used it not we I
51:05
wasn't born yet in the Second World War
51:07
so whip the jabs you know beat the Japs
51:10
nigga sahaja jabs okay there are a lot
51:12
of words with app you guys missed let's
51:14
go on next after as aa hop powder hop
51:20
hop good keep going flop sorry flop
51:26
spell a 400 feet if 00 p flap it you're
51:33
going to have to talk louder is the
51:34
microphone not working pop flap pop
51:38
that's all hi chala didn't I tell you
51:41
you'll be a d Elia wand remember I told
51:43
you be exhausted you all remember to be
51:46
a gel die okay very good map what else
51:50
tap excellent
51:54
why very good okay Amy's got a lot here
51:59
maybe you did not hear the ones i have
52:02
are bop bop your body uses pop plop prop
52:07
flap flap siga tonight abandon edition
52:11
flop drop-top lop ello p glop cop crop
52:17
clop clip clop clip clop hop hop slop
52:24
sop sap sap silly girl Knesset ukrainian
52:30
volume i seen it since you had a tongue
52:31
too and a sack to justin this in the
52:36
i will hardly me yo nigga don't see
52:38
you naked n go sap and slap stop strap
52:44
st ROP chop shop crap which are junk
52:49
mail ok so that's quite a few let's go
52:53
on 400 is going to be hard gulp gee awp
53:01
right go up and yo that's right those
53:04
are the only two there's also up but
53:07
that's none of those are common words
53:09
none of them there are those who found
53:11
you and just hang two units so you kiss
53:14
a crease here and chamomile mian qiang
53:16
glops they could only five died Oh Donna
53:20
yup saggio hold yalda is but we don't
53:25
use either word much at all alright i
53:27
use a lot only because of this exercise
53:29
that's the only reason okay Oh hope nope
53:33
rope co that's it i have all right Amy
53:39
do you have son mope mope is good mok's
53:42
is Tommy cuillean Tommy cuillean in
53:44
English is mope all right more all right
53:49
I have Pope dope dope trope hope lope
53:55
grope cope hope rope soap slope that's
54:01
it that's enough that's a lot alright
54:04
next this one's also hard
54:08
put two foot but we net net that's T we
54:14
need a final p well there's no answer so
54:21
you could just say there's nothing then
54:22
you're okay uh-huh uh-huh yeah nice into
54:27
will always behave differently do you
54:29
remember in the font of tactics pages
54:32
you may not have read that page there's
54:34
this there's a page about exceptions and
54:36
add syllable types ninja alma okay I
54:40
want you to add that that's an
54:41
assignment because of this exercise it's
54:45
called exceptions and odd syllable types
54:47
as I remember hope it won't be too hard
54:55
to find here yep that's the title it's
54:59
page 23 page 23 please put that in your
55:05
notes for this week we're adding that
55:07
page in and it's actually pretty
55:11
interesting I'm also going to assign
55:13
page 24 and that's for New Year's fun
55:19
fun atactic sixes phonotactic games it's
55:23
games so play a couple of the games some
55:26
of the links may be dead I will try to
55:28
check them again but be careful because
55:30
they some are addictive there was one of
55:34
the games that I played every day for
55:36
about three months okay yoga don't she
55:39
was sang you know how jolt a nigga to 18
55:41
so I'm warning you some of them hurt
55:43
doing he some of them are addictive I
55:46
think it was jumbled I used to I used to
55:48
do jumbled in the newspaper when I was
55:49
young and then it was online so i will
55:52
check the links and update them this
55:53
does they died actually rather
55:56
frequently so those two pages page what
55:59
23 fun of tactics five exceptions and
56:03
odd syllable types just Johan qi guai de
56:06
indias g ago and i want to mention what
56:10
are some odd syllables in Chinese
56:12
because I've written the paper about it
56:13
that I haven't published yet there are
56:16
some syllables that are quite odd in
56:18
Mandarin and the funniest one for me as
56:20
a foreigner
56:20
is Joan that's pretty weird isn't it he
56:25
butchered a Jones I get in your den Toby
56:27
Emma Stanley you think it's totally
56:31
normal that's right that's right it's
56:39
used in idioms but compared to the other
56:41
syllables Joan is a bit weird and you
56:46
also find that syllables with a very
56:49
strange syllable type structure they
56:52
describe strange things so we call that
56:55
sound symbolism this goes in your notes
56:58
sound symbolism Cinnabons angela qi guai
57:02
archaea cadenet han how to easily joseph
57:05
qi guai to you soon or Ganga
57:08
embarrassing Debray pudding Jong is
57:11
embarrassing John jing chen kun onda
57:14
guillotine qualms so have a biatch
57:17
aquatica syllable type 1 1 part easy use
57:19
a cheek white ganga awkward and done the
57:23
ISA and that happens a lot in English as
57:26
well another one is chill chill you
57:32
don't say Cho anymore how Cho hey boo
57:36
Liu Sheng gonna any
57:42
ah it was the oceans occasion and that
57:45
is Ohan ocean when I was in Taiwan is
57:49
the student how sure guang GAO you're
57:51
seeking out see yah i needed hope he's
57:54
here kandala Hojo email kengo kuma
57:59
you'll do the conga ho cho so please
58:02
don't tell me you don't have this word
58:04
but the fact is neat teen dads Akagi on
58:07
the Henshaw it's true because show is a
58:10
strange syllable type to let show yoga
58:14
needs to be on the chill how to toe
58:16
you're being sigatoka me to be n to lil
58:19
niggas an intial to why there is no word
58:21
in chinese pronounced chill nothing and
58:23
so why so what happens to get lin xiao
58:27
you don't like a syllable type poway
58:29
natural i na hoona fabio Gahan qi guai
58:31
gong-gong gattaca should she be easy put
58:34
this in your notes this is important
58:35
will take a paper you'll take a phone
58:36
finding and in english we have the same
58:39
thing there's a whole article on it Guan
58:42
cap Gonzaga team Oh in the Economist
58:44
Jing Zhi children jo AAP and John's okay
58:46
you sit do you believe me dunno y OU pat
58:49
down your shirt is a little mushy ok i
58:51
will post it on NTU phonetic so make
58:53
sure you check in NTU phonetics new kind
58:55
shot changing shirt and is a PM wins on
58:58
what kind of Sultan I how crushing
58:59
weight on crushing had yahooing when I
59:01
got and what sort in a Gideon chill
59:04
alright so what's happening with sounds
59:06
like oh how we become MLG good soon and
59:10
geo nigga p cuz it yo the hot Howard G
59:14
kissimmee other don't eat meat I some
59:20
kind of sound symbols it could be a
59:22
sound it could be an ax might appear
59:24
your kind of the nation's it or like
59:26
oops it's true ooh that sounds like fun
59:30
I'm sorry okay um well whoop is a
59:34
push-out shame delegate or mushy right
59:37
but oh well you my nigga jpg was a man
59:41
some aliza because the Yolo ha how it's
59:43
like a horse's innocence once again
59:45
gangaraju ting-kwong we have some other
59:47
things your wishes Oh pinion Ukrainian
59:51
Oh for example take it zoo york lenient
59:55
OOP OOP so many ahadi it's a woodchuck
60:01
goop Oh get that goop of your fingers
60:04
nikaah got more legal saima can answer
60:07
nigga Taylor tth down and your palm down
60:10
nigga dong XI so sandals on Enda each
60:13
way that's coop coop you can also say
60:16
good-b Josh out junk kazuyo goop goopy
60:20
goopy oh it's so goofy you could be Josh
60:23
out cuz it yo so yo a hot how its Liga
60:26
hand she quite a dong XI you're in an
60:28
exaggeration exaggeration the dong XI
60:30
alright so this is something worth
60:32
knowing the Henshaw because it had Joe
60:34
mmm Padua taught a gel so that union yet
60:37
alright so that was oh we really have
60:39
nothing and then saw me and chamois and
60:42
system s he goes toward every day should
60:44
be 0 and then up funk I lianca boot on
60:47
the demo in first oh then up actually I
60:51
had to think a while to figure that one
60:53
out does a shim find that you guys seen
60:55
the toll what's it yes she did get Joe
60:58
to toll does a sheen introduced it at
60:59
all okay so what do we have with ooh
61:02
who's trained your 10 yeah I have soup
61:08
group true poop very good soup troop
61:13
group poop gong-gong they poop and I
61:16
years ago how sheltered on seeso boop
61:17
boop bee jay chou yes daddy is what's
61:23
allowing ye go bloop bloop sudachi on da
61:28
dong XI senega chodar nigga wine chiller
61:34
and dupe tu pe dupe the Pyrenees droops
61:39
a Tracy ally troop jungle group jungle
61:44
gloop gloop can get a group see yonder
61:46
Nene and like a Gucci loop and loop LLP
61:55
yo my nigga transient loop and goop
62:02
Django that's about it croup hyuga CR
62:06
oup so nigga hold on fire
62:09
shahi Widow the ping she not be just saw
62:11
him to get the croup changsha we can't
62:14
down okay now we're to uh this was over
62:18
and up I didn't I didn't do oh cuz oh it
62:26
was a mistake in the book but actually
62:29
stuff like this how I call you need the
62:31
ambien ugly all right it's not an excuse
62:34
I made mistakes in that transcription
62:37
that you look used for a model and I
62:38
warned you about it when there's
62:40
mistakes in something you will pay more
62:42
attention ok so the Connie that ain't
62:45
bein ugly it's not an excuse but it
62:47
really does because in life is there
62:49
ever anything without mistakes but Icona
62:52
if there is not just only why they don't
62:55
she so always be ready for mistakes and
62:57
be ready to smooth them over yourself
62:59
you can supply the missing information
63:01
this is quite redundant chimento sidamo
63:03
end of the day so I unit I home and
63:06
blink I 20 amount mouth well we got put
63:08
to insider strongly in the other day
63:09
okay so what do we have for up cup and
63:15
up but then anything else sup good what
63:21
else anything else
63:27
drop we don't have trip we don't have
63:31
many for up cup up sup I don't really
63:36
have any others did anybody else have
63:38
something I don't up oh yeah Jinjin hope
63:42
to remember when i was in english it's
63:46
hot one becomes help hook two three four
63:49
because the next one is a nuisance it ok
63:54
I think that's all let's go on next four
63:59
I i have wipe gripe and ripe very good
64:08
pipe type tripe tripes and they got mmm
64:14
don't want an aids on created some time
64:17
try tongues it don't have the time to
64:19
gripe gripe cripes a matter in the ha
64:23
it's a euphemism for Christ's cry Oh
64:27
Cripe yes also oh crap ok to see you
64:31
guys at Christ vinegar we want you hype
64:34
hype sir quad Abu Taha hyp e ripe tongue
64:40
show stripe Talwyn wipe jungle yipe so
64:44
it's a nuisance ah how coop ha yay ok
64:48
katong weekend out and that's about it
64:51
all right let's go on to ow and boy you
64:55
can do both flight I didn't find any
65:00
either how about the oi oh nothing there
65:06
is nothing right over up washing that
65:09
side salt I would at that end up just
65:12
you nigga a Jap heat up glup glup cup
65:16
hop sup yup yup boy yep and pop shall go
65:22
ok so I miss some a minute ago alright
65:25
so that's that now considering only the
65:27
vowels that cannot occur in
65:29
monosyllables close by P which are they
65:31
ow Oy and can we count anything else
65:38
oh yeah how about how about our o is
65:45
really touches fan come on me by my JP
65:48
imminent niggas is a tie hi auntie Anna
65:50
but I swam so i think is is fine but 40
65:56
and ow ooh and ahh actually all four of
66:02
those i think ki Swan no by my jet Peter
66:05
okay oh it's your whoop whoop Slater
66:08
making me ship with Iran so how about 4f
66:12
what did you find each of ya 4b be pop
66:22
pub but we don't want a is not a problem
66:25
is not a problem Oh is more of a problem
66:28
ooh ah ow and OU our problems can any of
66:35
those take be anybody none of them can
66:39
take be none of them none of the four
66:41
how about mmm
66:48
can any of them take mmm the only poem
66:59
poem em that's em the only thing I could
67:04
come up with is a different
67:06
pronunciation of room I say room some
67:08
people say room room room Schuyler and
67:11
waiting room okay that's I put in
67:14
parentheses how about four foot anybody
67:21
I'll just ask everybody because they're
67:23
not going to be too many words for these
67:24
a couple of them will have more okay for
67:27
F I have just like with room some people
67:31
say roof the roof of the house roof I
67:34
say roof and rough I say both actually
67:37
so roof secona yo sho ho and sorry cough
67:42
that's good 540 is good yeah and I
67:46
didn't have that so cough all right and
67:51
anything else let me write that down
67:55
before I forget laughs okay anything
67:58
else louder all right COI F today that
68:07
was the other possible you I'd said but
68:09
what language is it from French and so
68:12
how we pronounce it she's very nicely
68:15
quaffed nicely quaff it should be quaff
68:19
if you don't know this word you might
68:22
say coif but I have never ever heard
68:24
coif except when I said it in this class
68:26
well dizzy young boys I'd like a bunch
68:29
huh okay what's I take a good man so
68:32
coif actually should be cross so we
68:35
don't have anything for F how about 40
68:39
okay we have out what else
68:44
we have a lab for out so out bout doubt
68:50
shout route tout their a lot for out
68:58
right how about 40 we have foot what
69:06
else put P UT and just a tan tan way tan
69:16
fan the later justice our whole you try
69:20
an egg attend the nigger friend now suit
69:23
SL ot suit we have suit suit put foot
69:28
anything else some people say roots for
69:31
root root EO soaking in route yeah and
69:35
huh p UT yeah we said pu t put we have
69:39
that one anything else how about 40 join
69:46
there's an end megha ambushing i can't
69:49
use something with an n anything else I
69:52
don't have anything for oi and i have
69:57
only those of you for out there are
69:59
quite a few you'll hand or and ought
70:03
ought how about 40 we have a lot for I
70:07
so wat buns n Tott bot brought sought
70:15
fought caught ground jumbo mayo ok all
70:21
of those can go with so all works pretty
70:24
good for a lot of these or has actually
70:27
a lot of possible words is quite
70:28
productive alright how about for n how
70:32
about a plus and when do we have one now
70:36
only in Taiwan English moon
70:39
should be moon we have it in Taiwan
70:42
English we should add that put a note te
70:44
Tai 1 English ok so who doesn't work how
70:49
about a dawn dawn what else fawn Shalu
71:00
Braun BR a WND joseph enno Gero Gero and
71:04
five daddy uses it uh-huh what else lon
71:08
talking what else ok Don junk will do
71:16
you mean huh la WN yuan is good that
71:24
attend yawn good what else Sean nice
71:27
what it means is Sean what else how
71:35
about drawn DRA WN drawn and gon gon e
71:44
he's gone gone ok so all of those have a
71:50
pawn p aww and thumb down don't you den
71:53
down all right that's four ah how about
71:59
four how about down down down town good
72:11
crown clown minsu known Joe mate ho
72:21
there we go ok so we have allowed for
72:23
own how about Owen loin join coin groin
72:35
gr oh I n sushi boo if you want to know
72:38
yeah groin now you know how to say it ok
72:42
we have quite a few for oil in this case
72:44
mmm okay that takes care of n let's
72:46
hurry up and finish will go up to yeah
72:50
we're almost done so let's get through
72:52
this l
72:52
for a pull right do you have any others
72:58
I didn't find any others 40 plus oh and
73:02
how about four awww we have a lot
73:08
actually tall call etc throwing it in
73:11
bent because I hi saw tall call draw
73:15
ball Paul the name brawl BR a WL fall ok
73:28
mall is good ma ll good mall doll yah
73:32
wah wah gul GA ll call this is done yeah
73:44
oh I say doll I say doll bow-bow sounds
73:51
people right there there a couple words
74:05
like this where there's going to be a
74:06
problem because we've got an L after the
74:07
vowel and it changes a vowel so for for
74:11
my particular idiolect I can't speak
74:13
even for all the people who live where I
74:15
came from I say doll I don't say doll
74:18
doll for me is something else it's
74:21
Indian being though how's it those are
74:24
the uses that's doll but doll for me is
74:27
yah wah wah there's going to be jung e
74:29
because the l changes the vowel so this
74:32
one is a kind of murky case you would
74:34
ever win draw but i say doll I don't say
74:36
doll sorry hits me all wrong if other
74:41
people say it's okay but it doesn't
74:42
sound like me okay so that's l anymore
74:46
for all y'all everybody hall teen Tom a
74:55
crawl positi shine law lol l that's a
75:03
shuttle wang wang xiao qu i shan't go go
75:06
go lolling tongue day alright so that's
75:12
all and how about owl owl anything else
75:22
towel the only problem with towel is two
75:27
syllables but words like owl also sound
75:31
like two syllables so this case is
75:33
really unclear this is a really
75:35
ambiguous case owl for me is two
75:37
syllables patchi's again towel yawn co
75:40
two syllables so my words without the
75:44
two syllable ones are cowl johnson- told
75:48
a nigga Mollison ago chilled out
75:50
young the nigga total mouth jack owl
75:54
prowl josa nigga polyp does it its shell
76:01
toe Tanika battled an eager hun ching
76:04
just as in charge and it'll dome is
76:06
proud and what else do I have here um
76:11
foul foul quite yellow the meat is foul
76:16
Yoli on the injured at your bowels its
76:19
hands it dowell sir moog when towel
76:24
trowel trowels see good chi-chan yonder
76:28
gongju okay yeah historically they were
76:36
probably different for me they have
76:39
merged for me towel should be two
76:43
syllables but actually i pronounce it
76:46
the same as owl owl towel duel I saw a
76:50
young sri lanka in yet they merged all
76:52
you guys oh oh dear because the surgeon
76:56
jolla virginia in fact is Ileana India
76:59
Nadal your ego harness with higher
77:02
ancients in the saliva India owls the
77:04
e-way elder Gwen she had your house on
77:08
you would shoot a syllable pal saliva ok
77:10
so those are those are really
77:12
questionable cases um what else do we
77:15
have how about for oil spoil coil broil
77:22
foil foil what else royal it's also
77:30
pronounced trial royal soil django maja
77:35
alright so those are for oil we have a
77:38
lab for oi and how about first soon what
77:41
do we have with oh well
77:47
anybody have one shall mommy puts every
77:52
day cuz a nigga she can eat chun legacy
77:55
bandits k bar nigga YG di puss
77:58
puss and boots hi Auriga leave the woods
78:03
was so it's very insulting it's to call
78:07
somebody a coward call them a wuss you
78:09
know this word Amy how do you know it
78:12
picked it up okay yeah woof it's it's a
78:16
coward okay I was going to use a bad
78:18
Chinese word but everybody's shocked
78:20
when I say it so I won't say it okay so
78:22
what's inputs those are the only ones i
78:24
have how about four awww how about 40
78:33
sauce what else
78:40
sauce anything else I don't have much
78:44
else what's this eundel sauce okay um
78:46
how about 40 house keep going laos
78:53
should just a potion nigga nigga laos
78:58
growl so you don't yell blouse
79:01
newton-john douse so nigga Gwen's ray to
79:08
douse out a fire poo Mia young straight
79:11
you pull pull me in an agar whore and
79:14
what else how about for oi voice good
79:19
what else choice what else Joyce the
79:26
name good rolls-royce rolls-royce right
79:33
what else that's all I have actually and
79:38
then let's do z what do we have for Z we
79:42
see we have an advantage because we can
79:44
count what kinds of words plurals woman
79:48
k yawns to the way OS plural the Chizzy
79:51
defying what do you have for Z everybody
79:52
just shout out what you have uh we're
79:56
doing out now 40 if we could go back to
80:02
our or what are we doing with with Z
80:04
woman's home to holla well do we have
80:05
anything with oh do we have anything
80:09
with uh no nothing with oh let's do off
80:12
since you mentioned it cause pause what
80:16
else flaws and elapses laws what else
80:26
clause grazie
80:30
Josh shalu what else straws cheap wine
80:39
and that's about all I have Charles
80:45
Charles yeah cha-cha-cha sand nigger
80:49
in its own jasma even somewhere in
80:53
your be ended a woman yoga en screech to
80:56
the crib child champion long yeah that's
80:59
a child tobacco cha CH aw tickets joseph
81:03
gang house so hey Fonzie israeli chick
81:06
out the song ends how ok a cha it's from
81:10
two passes it some chewy ambien to
81:12
lighter that's our and or how about for
81:15
owl hmm vows that's a lot of those okay
81:23
so boughs pals plows browse Leoline
81:29
browse to the twine the bluefin vows
81:35
sister noah and what else
81:44
dow's that's douse let's douse cuz you
81:49
doubted soy yoga sadao it's not curry is
81:52
it Jo means mmm rouse to chi Chi and
81:59
south and romo jewel Wow sand water Wow
82:04
Yao's and what a yahoo okay that's about
82:13
all I have and then how about K&G; okay
82:18
what do we have anyone with a book what
82:22
else cook Brooke what else took look
82:34
look yeah yo kin group so Jana is a gook
82:37
a lot of gook uh-huh hook go to the rook
82:41
it's a peon in what else shook shook
82:49
shake the goy shoo shoo what else ok I
82:55
think that will do for what do we have
82:56
for aww
83:00
oh honey jam today ok we have what talk
83:06
hey nobody has awk huh
83:14
so young she jus phone nigga uganda
83:19
later CA you lk and that's about
83:29
all i have for awk okay and how about
83:31
out anything without your mail nothing
83:40
how about for nothing co nigga mmm to go
83:49
take a lap like a lap pool how many
83:52
niggas on Tom paja yoi King cousin is a
83:54
while I hate you alright g anything for
83:56
G look anything was ugh no how about for
84:03
aughh log bog cog no that's cog log bog
84:10
what else fog whoa frog ching hua dog
84:15
tog what else Smaug is good log fog clog
84:26
that's clogs clogs he wears clogs doko e
84:29
clog slug ok that that'll do for it for
84:36
good and how about for out do we have
84:38
anything alga yo Mia anything without
84:42
know anything goes oh no ok take a break
84:46
take a break ok we need to continue we
84:51
want to finish because the class is
84:52
almost over ok everybody ok sorry to
84:54
keep you so long for a sour just really
84:57
it hope we could finish but i guess not
84:58
and I PA will be our subject next time
85:00
we just really don't have the time we're
85:02
barely going to finish this I don't
85:03
think we can even do the performance
85:04
exercises but I really want to finish
85:06
the written exercises ok so we're
85:10
looking at the transcriptions
85:12
I helped me because I have blind spots
85:16
Mona at the board especially especially
85:19
many blind spots I have them anyway okay
85:22
so I've called several how about
85:27
stresses song ain't dissin I way okay
85:31
stresses I've called several these
85:35
should be straight by the way sorry I've
85:37
called several times but never found you
85:44
there and art are make it a little more
85:47
like this all right yeah how about yeah
85:53
that's right do we say several no he
85:58
didn't say several he said several and
86:00
they got our okay I've called several
86:04
times but never found you there alright
86:09
if I missing anything stop me right away
86:10
because we have to finish I yes that's
86:17
good we made it clear it could be this
86:19
one but it should be this one you're
86:21
right good anything else all right I've
86:24
cold several did he say several or
86:27
several let's go back to Peter how many
86:33
syllables too so don't you try to get
86:38
over your prejudices you know something
86:40
that you know is often much harder to
86:42
transcribe that something you've never
86:43
heard before so when I was hearing those
86:45
strange languages and doing
86:47
transcriptions I probably did a better
86:49
job than I would do even with British
86:50
because American gets in the way and for
86:53
you your Taiwan English will get in a
86:54
way I've call I've cold several times
86:58
but never found you there okay yes
87:09
you're probably right let's go let's
87:11
listen again did he say Jew no he didn't
87:15
but Peter did okay so we should put a
87:18
Jew here found you yeah alright let's
87:22
keep going otherwise we're not going to
87:23
finish question what did you hear he
87:33
probably is it's it's the with voiceless
87:38
pneus at the end times let's if you want
87:42
to be it's probably mostly voiceless
87:45
it's probably mostly voiceless and I
87:47
have a problem with my own prejudices
87:49
because I believe it should be zoo so
87:52
sometimes I can tell you if it's mostly
87:54
sores is it because it must be zoo in my
87:56
mind the longer vowel tells us that it's
88:01
zoo times he probably said there's a bit
88:03
of a zoo and the rest is voiceless I
88:05
would stick with the Z myself but that
88:08
may be my prejudices let's hurry and
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finish please if you find things they'll
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stop me and please tell me and here
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stresses always remember to put in those
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dresses this is American someone someone
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some where wants a letter from you
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someone somewhere wants a letter from
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you this is probably the stress all
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right British someone somewhere wants a
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letter from you okay three let's start
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with we starting with American we were
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away a year ago which did he stress we
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were away a year ago there's their
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stress on go we were there's probably
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stress on we too we were away this is
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the tonic stress I didn't ask you to put
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tonic we were away
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year ago okay anything else British we
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will is there an are there why so we
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have we were away we were away a year
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ago we were away a year a year ago yeah
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year ago and there should be an are
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there that's right and we just listen to
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it we're gonna have to finish before
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break sorry it's all on the board we
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were away a year ago this one we were
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away tonic a year ago okay anything else
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stop me we all heard is their stress
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there or not did you hear stress we all
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heard a yellow lion roar how do we write
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roar the way we usually write it is this
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way roar roar this would be lower and I
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don't think he said that we all heard a
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yellow lion roar let's listen to Bruce
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say it there may be a little bit of an
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off glide there roar continue at the end
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but I don't think it's necessary Yeah
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right right and all right we use off but
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the L is going to change it that's right
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and heard yes we're going to use the
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stressed version okay actually this
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should be written also with the same
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kind of hook as like this because
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waiting she guana this is Taiwan kk take
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a sheet wat happen I you guys sound
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heard it down the hook okay we all heard
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a yellow lion yeah this is okay roar and
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the British we all heard a Yelp
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we all heard a yellow lion probably
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should be a schwa that lion or are there
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going to have an R here no it's just
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going to be roll okay just like raw
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shunda we so we all listen yo hood y'all
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heard a yellow yellow lion roar all
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right let's dressed next one what did
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you say before that American what did
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did he say Jew or you say before that
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what did you say before that what did
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you what did you say before that looks
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okay to me now British what did you say
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before that before that let's see how he
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says it what what did you say before
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that okay and this shouldn't be it it's
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be he said be before that are we okay
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six never kill a snake with your bare
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hands upside down our please okay so
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never kill a snake with your bare hands
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anything to how about this is it s or Z
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and is it with or width I showed us a
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whiz shut up at half with
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with you bear we want an are here for
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British oh this is me Sorry Sorry Sorry
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Sorry Sorry don't make what you uh-huh
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never kill a snake with your with your
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with ya your bear not bear this is
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English now British English bare hands
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never give a snake with your bare bare
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hands mm-hmm okay 7 it's easy to tell
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the depth of the well you don't put it
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on top you put it to the side above it
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it's meal stress it's easy to tell the
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depth of a well easy to tell let's put a
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tap there it's easy to tell the depth of
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a well it's easy to tell the depth of a
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well okay and English British British
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English it's easy to a British it's no
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stress this is just a bracket it's easy
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to tell tale tell the depth of a well ok
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it's easy to tell the depth of a well
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this looks ok to me now anybody see
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anything else 8american I enjoy Tasha to
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sit down to sit Emma I enjoy the simple
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life does actually sound like ear i SAT
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i enjoy i have more of a schwa he has
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more of an earth so i enjoy i enjoy the
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simple like tonic was here i enjoy the
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simple life ok and then british he has a
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different emphasis here i enjoy the
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simple life
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oh he has actually the Tyrian I enjoy
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this simple and he does say simple
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there's no sh Y their life I enjoy the
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simple life ok anybody catch anything I
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missed by the way this is a line here ok
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not a dot it's a line different from kk
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any questions let's just answer very
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quickly letter G what is the answer to
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letter G this one's easy just two short
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answers which vowel occurs before the
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smallest number of consonants it's oh
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isn't it not oh it's oh well is a really
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weird vowel with a very limited
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distribution so understand that that may
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be in the final it has a very limited
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distribution fun tactically and what
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class of consonants occurs after the
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largest number of vowels louder al
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veelers L veelers that's right as for
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the next page all I really wanted you to
96:44
do is put in the vowels in the vowel
96:46
space in American English that's good
96:48
enough ok for British you can look at
96:51
the table but we're working mainly with
96:52
American if you've got that down you
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know how to do that that's good enough
96:56
so we have one class left you need to
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hand in your notes next time you also
97:02
need to include in your notes what what
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you need to include in your notes pages
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what
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23 and 24 about add syllable types and
97:18
then games play the games have some fun
97:20
over New Year's you and then that new
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years and you also need to have your IPA
97:26
ready I don't mind if you compare notes
97:29
if you check with each other I want you
97:32
to do a good job so we can save as much
97:34
time as possible it's going to probably
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take the whole class also include
97:39
missing items in your notes items that
97:41
we're missing from previous notes make
97:44
sure that you've checked all the notes
97:45
of the tas if they said this is missing
97:47
put it in the notes for next week I
97:51
think that's everything on my list ok
97:54
that's it and then I asked you weigh no
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that's finals week hey Jesus of finals
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week ma Eugene finals week Eugene Kai's
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dilemma great gee houses ute that's
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finals week we don't have class on
98:12
finals week so we have one class left
98:14
the second on the ninth on the ninth if
98:19
you want you to go over it again ok
98:23
final exam is on January nice from 120
98:28
to 310 the usual class time in this room
98:30
January ninth is a Wednesday January
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seventh is a monday we do not have class
98:35
that's finals week we don't have class
98:37
in finals week our last class is on
98:39
january second the day after New Year's
98:42
vacation we're mainly going to be
98:44
working on Chinese in IPA ok any other
98:49
questions about what we're doing think
98:51
more about the question of Chinese being
98:53
syllable spot a syllable time to stress
98:55
time start listening carefully to
98:57
Chinese as you speak it and as the
98:59
people around you speak it see if you
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can start noticing these things and
99:02
there are a couple other interesting
99:03
things that amy was telling me about she
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says it's very popular now besides knew
99:07
somebody noticed that new is now very
99:09
popular is an intensifier right
99:10
chattahoochee yonder nope another new
99:13
high solution LA and also amy says that
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jon is getting popular as a monosyllable
99:19
you get Diane Diane get wrong ah teenage
99:23
highway ahora no yoshiyama
99:26
you can confirm this is sheena wrong
99:28
tongue is the doe urine champ has a
99:30
hundred wrong then banda we get in here
99:32
so sweet you know she also when my
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daughter was in high school she's about
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she's about six seven six or seven years
99:42
older than you when she yeah about six
99:44
years older than you so about six years
99:46
six seven years eight years ago nigga
99:48
doha new sheiks whirlpool deal tiedemann
99:52
guilty with zuma Amy tells me it's not
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popular anymore is that true no it's not
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popular you don't say yes cuz you will
100:02
confuse me if you say yes it's not
100:04
popular no it's not popular anymore WG
100:08
Mary and John Lowe retire and jam
100:09
because of her long do you all so that's
100:12
a way of creating slang in Mandarin you
100:15
play around with how many syllables the
100:17
word has David a name Joker Wang Chi ang
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lee I mean depends on yanga india in
100:22
kids are either in GI joe benson eagle
100:24
to you dare be el bolillo and I hold I
100:26
beyond don't belong down sit okay that's
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it please come prepared for your last
100:30
day of class working mainly on IPA and
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work hard on your notes and have a very
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happy new year